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ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
Item# 177202
This ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Heater warms your home the same way a central heater does. Patented dual fuel technology allows you to choose between natural gas and liquid propane fuel. Not for sale in California or Canada. Check your local regulations on installation restrictions and requirements. Heating Capability sq. ft. 1,000, Color White, Product Style Wall heater, Dimensions L x W x H in. 8 x 26 5/8 x 23 1/2, Oxygen Depletion Sensor Yes, Thermostat Included Yes, Blower Included No sold separately, Includes Diamond mesh grill for added safety, BTU Output 30,000. Nonadjustable regulator prevents over-firing and thermostat control allows you to maintain desired room temperature Cool-to-the-touch outer cabinet Thermostat control Works with Manual/Automatic Thermostat Blower, Item# 173957 Propane use requires 100-lb. tank or larger with two-stage adjustable regulator available from gas supply company.
Questions & Answers for ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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Pilot light
I have a question. Do you need to ignite unit each time when you want to use it, or does it have a pilot light that stays lit when thermostat reaches its temperature and flame goes off. Example, I set it to medium setting, does flame go on and off automatically like a furnace, or does it run non stop until I turn it off like a space heater.
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asked 2 years, 7 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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answer 1
The PROCOM Blue Flame Vent Free Wall Heater item # 177202 must be set to run at PILOT/IGN, LOW or HIGH locked positions. The pilot light will only shut off when there is not enough air.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
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No you do not have to ignite unit each time although you may if you choose to. Yes it does have a pilot light that stays lit when the desired temperature is reached. Yes it kicks on and off like a furnace.It does not run non stop like a space heater. The lowest setting is 1 which lets it get pretty cold,but not freezing temp. before it kicks on, highest setting is 5, which lets it get good and warm but also still kicks on and off. It also has a PILOT setting which lets you keep just the pilot light lit (Flame does not kick on) so you don't have to keep igniting the pilot when you want to use it. It also has an OFF setting.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SouthernMama
- Pearce, AZ
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The Pilot flame should stay ON as the unit cycles . As the unit reaches the set temperature, the MAIN reduces and can go OFF... The Pilot Light will stay ON and re-ignite the Main Flame as it senses the need for more heat... Move the Control Knob to the OFF position and the Pilot Lightshould go OFF.If the Pilot light is OFF and you want to re-start the unit... You Must Re-Light the Pilot Light and adjust the the thermostat to the resired setting.
ProCom Tech Support/Customer Care Number: 1-877-886-5989
ProCom Tech Support/Customer Care Number: 1-877-886-5989
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
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GrandTbird
- Philadelphia, PA
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answer 4
yes the pilot light stays lit,the heater comes on and off on its own to what you have it set on
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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oldchevy
- lewistown PA
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answer 5
Mine cycles like a furnace. I have only lit it once when I first installed and started it. Mine has been running fine for two months now.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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JerryG
- Durham area NC
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answer 6
There is a pilot light that stays on. You do not need to ignite it each time. Setting the thermostat will regulate the burn like a furnace.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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coldnortwoods
- Northern Wisconsin
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answer 7
It has a standing pilot. Once lit it stays lit until you set the thermostat to the off position.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
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- Albany, NY
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does it require electricy to operate?
30,000 BTU non vented gas heater.
asked 2 years, 8 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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No, there is an optional Blower Fan unit you can get with it which requires electricity, but I believe the unit itself does not need the fan or electricity, it just runs off the propane.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SouthernMama
- Pearce, AZ
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answer 2
The heater does not require any electricity to operate. If you should add the blower, the blower would require electricity. See below for the blower...
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answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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This heater doesn't require electricy to operate unless you purchase the optional blower fan kit.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Missoula, MT
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answer 4
Big no unless you add the fan which is electric but not nescessary really unless you have to move air some distance. My Pro Com 30'00 blue flame heats my small house just fine without it but am putting one in anyway.That is why these make such a great emergency unit. Other than enough fuel you need nothing else to stay warm.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Durham area NC
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answer 5
The heater by itself does not require an electrical hookup but if you get the optional fan it does require a regular outlet.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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- Northern Wisconsin
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answer 6
No. If you buy the blower unit that will require power but even without electricity the unit will still provide heat.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
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- Albany, NY
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What are the Venting requirements?
What are the venting requirements?
To a Chimney or through the wall direct vent?
If to a chimney is ok, what is the maximum distance between the appliance and the chimney?
Thanks!
To a Chimney or through the wall direct vent?
If to a chimney is ok, what is the maximum distance between the appliance and the chimney?
Thanks!
asked 2 years, 8 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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- Southern NY
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It is a Vent Free unit which requires no venting at all through the wall or chimney. You can just hang it from your wall and use.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SouthernMama
- Pearce, AZ
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answer 2
This ProCom wall heater is actually vent-free, just install and use.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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answer 3
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This heater has no external venting required; it vents directly into the area being heated.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Missoula, MT
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answer 4
None that is why they are called ventless. No heat goes anywhere but in the house and with the auto shut off oxygen sensor no real worries. If this doesn't make you feel safe add a gas alert alarm and rest easy. I have been poisioned by gas and nearly died so this is what I did as a backup to the sensor but I may just be paranoid.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Durham area NC
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answer 5
Refer to the downloadable PDF manual under the "Products Q & A" for installation, safety requirements and information for various installations.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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coldnortwoods
- Northern Wisconsin
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Gas Line
What size input gas line is required for this ?
asked 2 years, 8 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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Use only new, black iron or steel pipe. Internally tinned copper tubing may be used in certain areas. Check your local codes. Use pipe of 1/2-in. diameter or greater to allow proper gas volume to heater. If pipe is too small, undue loss of pressure will occur.
This appliance requires a 3/8-inch NPT (National Pipe Thread) inlet connection to the pressure regulator. A 3/8" flexible line may be used to connect the heater to the gas line.
This appliance requires a 3/8-inch NPT (National Pipe Thread) inlet connection to the pressure regulator. A 3/8" flexible line may be used to connect the heater to the gas line.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Olympic Peninsula, WA
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On this ProCom blue flame wall heater the inlet size for the gas connection is 3/8 inch NPT (national pipe thread). Piping must be 1/2 inch or greater in diameter to allow for proper gas volume.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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answer 3
My 30'00 blue flame is hooked to a 3/8 and runs great.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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JerryG
- Durham area NC
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answer 4
Refer to the downloadable PDF manual found under the "Products Q & A" for installation requirements and information for various installations.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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coldnortwoods
- Northern Wisconsin
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answer 5
It has a 3/8" NPT input.
answered 2 years, 1 month ago
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- Albany, NY
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Do your heaters come with propane hoses
I was wondering if your PROCOM Blue Flame Wall Heater — 30,000 BTU comes with a propane line to attach it to a propane tank.
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No. The heaters do NOT come with Propane Hoses. You can order the one(s) from Northerntool.com Or have one or more made up at a gas supply store that does make custom length hoses. Remember NOT to Exceede the National recommended lengths for the hose(s) you are using. Always check your hose(s) for wear and/or deterioration; and replace with the proper hose(s) quickly if needed.
answered 2 years, 7 months ago
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- Philadelphia, PA
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answer 2
The propane line is not included with this model. You can purchase the gas connection kit listed below.
answered 2 years, 8 months ago
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answer 3
No but you can buy the installation kit when you purchase. Then you may need to buy some copper 3/8 gas line for outside to hook to tank and a reducer from the inside shut off to the 3/8 line which I had to do. None of this is difficult just be sure you use water and a little dish soap to check EVERY connection for bubbles. Any bubbles coming out after you brush it on that connection needs to be tightened or replaced. Do not over tighten just a litlle more than hand tight as over tightening can wreck your threads or the flare on the copper line. Re use soap and water again. Anything you retighten or do anything to re check it as many times as you change it.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Durham area NC
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answer 4
Mine did not. I had to purchase the specific hoses and adapters for my installation. Refer to the downloadable PDF manual under the "Products Q & A" for information about various installations.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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- Northern Wisconsin
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Can the heater be used in a mobile home? Thank you
asked 2 years, 6 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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- Reno, NV
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Don't see why not. Just make sure wherever you install it, there is decent clearance from other obstacles.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SCOTTNORTHCAROLINA
- North Carolina
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answer 2
This heater can be used in a mobile home, if your mobile home is 12,000 square feet and if you want to use propane. This heater does require a 100lb propane tank. You need find out the square footage you want to heat. If you purchase a heater that is too large for your space, the heater will use up all the oxygen in the room and the sensor inside the heater will shut down the heater completely. See recommendations below for heaters.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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answer 3
These type of heaters have been used in campers for several years and my next door neighbor uses one in his mobile home. Has for several years. Just watch your clearances and try to be as close to them as you can or if you need to drop it for upper clearance put a woodstove mat under it. Which I was doing in my camper before I sold it.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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- Durham area NC
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answer 4
Review the downloadable PDF manual found under the "Product Q & A" tab for safety and installation concerns in mobile homes. Always check with local and state regulations for installation in your area.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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- Northern Wisconsin
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What is the lowest temperature setting for the thermostat?
I would like to keep a spot above freezing but not all the way up to fifty degrees or more. Can I set the thermostat to say 35 or forty degrees?
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Thermostat settings are a number range from 1 to 5. 5 being the highest. I have are's set at 2.5 with a consistent temp in the low 70's on a freezing temp night.
If your well insulated probably in the 1 to 1.5 range.
If your well insulated probably in the 1 to 1.5 range.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SCOTTNORTHCAROLINA
- North Carolina
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answer 2
i have mine set on the very first setting and my house stays around 65 degrees
answered 2 years, 5 months ago
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anonymous101
- reno nv
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answer 3
The thermostat on this heater does not designate a given temperature. When used on the lowest setting the heater will attempt to maintain approximately 50 degrees F.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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answer 4
From what I can tell in my unscientific testing is that the lowest setting seems to keep the temperature about 63-65 in my garage office. I've been using a min-max thermometer to check. It hasn't been really cold here yet though.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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- Northern Wisconsin
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Are these vent free heaters safe/legal to use in a bedroom, or in my case, in a bunkhouse cabin where people will be sleeping?
asked 2 years, 6 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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- Utah
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answer 1
ProCom does not recommend these be used in any sleeping quarters.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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answer 2
Yes, I use vent free heater and fireplaces in large 1915 home. Has gas company rep out to explain vent free to me when I bought home. I use natural gas, it burns clean, no fumes, scents or danger at all as far as the vent free goes. Common sense is install any heater away from very close objects and all connections are sealed tight. Vent free is a good and safe heat source.
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- North Carolina
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answer 3
The manual does not recommend it be installed in a bedroom or bath. MA code prohibits it. There is an oxygen depletion sensor designed to shut down the unit if there is insufficient fresh air. The manual provides specifications for make up air based on the size of the space in which it is installed.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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Brimac
- Olympic Peninsula, WA
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answer 4
I do not know about a bunkhouse cabin but as far as the heater goes I have one in my house and we sleep with it on all the time. There is glass that sits in front of the flame. I also have one that is about 30 years old in my wood frame house that we have never had a problem with and we use every year.
answered 2 years, 5 months ago
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- Tampa,Fl
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What size propane tank does this item require?
asked 2 years, 6 months ago on ProCom Blue Flame Vent-Free Wall Heater - 30,000 BTU Output, 1000 Sq. Ft. Heating Capacity, Model# MD300TBA
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answer 1
You can use anything from a 5 gallon tank to a 30 gallon tank. We have personally used 5 ,7,10, and 30 gallon tanks.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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SouthernMama
- Pearce, AZ
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answer 2
A minimum of 100# tank is recommended, but a smaller one would work, you will just have to fill it more often.
answered 2 years, 6 months ago
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Brimac
- Olympic Peninsula, WA
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answer 3
To prevent performance problems, do not use propane/LP fuel tank of less than 100 lbs. capacity.
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answer 4
100 lb tank is the minimum size for this heater
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oldchevy
- lewistown PA
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DOES IT SMELL?
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answer 1
There is a short "burn off" period when you run heater for the first time that will produce a smell, but once it is broken in there will be no smell.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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answer 2
No,not at all.When you first lite it smells for a minute but after that you cant smell any odor
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answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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Sparkyx
- Wellston,Oklahoma
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answer 3
The answer is yes and no. I personally can't smell mine. A properly working heater should not put off a bad smell. However some people have a keener sense of smell and claim to smell propane when the tank is getting low. The oder is added to propane and when tanks are almost empty I would guess they can smell more oder coming out. At least some of my customers used to tell me this. (I used to pump propane in my former job) Other customers are like me and never smelled it from the heater. Sometimes a husband might smell the propane slightly when the tank got low, while the wife couldn't smell a thing. So I really believe some can and some can't. But you should never smell it normally. It you do somethings wrong.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Rbtpartsman
- Goodview, VA
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answer 4
no it does not smell
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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- Grand Rapids,MI
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