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Magic Heat™ Reclaimer for Wood, Oil or Coal Stove - 6 in., Model# MH-6-R

Item# 17278
Installs into flue of your wood, oil or coal furnace or heater (except Item# 172781 which is only for use with gas stoves). Magic Heat™ Reclaimer consists of 10 heat-exchanger tubes and a thermostatically controlled fan to blow warmed air into the room. Turns on at 150° and off at 110°F. 115 Volts. Produces 225 CFM and 8000 to 30,000 BTU. Peak performance is maintained by the use of Flue Stove Pipe cleaner (our Item# 172801). 18 1/4in.H x 10 5/8in.W x 14 1/4in.D. Please measure flue before ordering. U.S.A. Common Usage: Heat reclaimer, Works With: Wood, oil or coal stove, CFM: 225, BTU Output: 8,000-30,000, Flue Collar Size (in.): 6, Mount Type: Vertical mounting only, Volts: 115, Auto On/Off: Turns on at 150° and off at 110°F, Dimensions L x W x H (in.): 18 1/4 x 10 5/8 x 14 1/4, Includes: (1) Reclaimer 120 V Blower Fan has 6 ft. cord, 3 prong plug Note: Allow 18in. clearance between stove and heat reclaimer Crimp on the bottom
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Questions & Answers for Magic Heat™ Reclaimer for Wood, Oil or Coal Stove - 6 in., Model# MH-6-R

Question

Exactly how do you install this?

Comments say its easy but I am not a handyman at all
asked 1 year, 5 months ago
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answer 1
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This unit is installed in the stovepipe by removing a section of pipe and replacing it with this heat reclaimer. In some situations the pipe will need to be cut to achieve a proper fit. If you are unsure of your ability to install the unit please contact your local heating professional.
answered 1 year, 5 months ago
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ProductExpert13
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answer 2
There are some decent instructions that come with the unit. Following local codes about distance to flammable objects (around here it's 18"). Basically, cut the stove pipe so that it's between 12 and 20" off of the stove. Insert heat reclaimer. Install screws between stove pipe and heat reclaimer (per instructions). Complete chimney pipe from heat reclaimer to original chimney. Plug in unit and enjoy.

Manufacturer's website contains instruction sheet if you want to read it before purchase.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Bruno3000
 - Winston-Salem, NC
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answer 3
As long as your draft, temp, and CO2 numbers are OK per installation manual, go for it. Took the heating/cooling guys 20 min to install.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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getonenow
 - Beatrice, NE
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answer 4
Basically, you remove one section of pipe and install this. Now, your section of pipe will NOT be the same length as the Magic Heat, so you will need to cut a section of pipe out to insert this unit. Secondly, make sure you know if you want to buy a unit with the crimped end down, or the crimped end on top (this all depends on your wood stove's configuration). Even if the crimped ends don't match your stove configuration, you can go to the hardware store and buy a double male or double female adapter. So it's not very hard. You will want a pair of sheet metal cutters, AND work gloves so you won't get cut on the sharp edges. Always use a file to remove any sharp edges created after cutting the metal.
answered 1 year, 3 months ago
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Charles03608
 - New Hampshire
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answer 5
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Just set it where you want it along the pipe, fasten with sheet metal screws, and plug it in.
answered 1 year, 2 months ago
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majajh
 - Aiken, SC
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answer 6
one end is crimped, which accepts the straight end of one pipe, and the other end is straight, which goes into your crimped end of pipe. Just make sure of clearance between your stove.
answered 1 year, 2 months ago
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smurf67
 - York, PA
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answer 7
you need some knowledge of measuring and cutting stove pipe this would require tin snips, a measuring tape and possibly a crimping tool. You will also need a drill, and self tapping screws and possibly some wire (like used to hang ceiling tile track to secure the magic heat reclaimer to the joists). you need a power supply near the reclaimer so you may need to install an outlet or at the very least run a heavy duty extension cord plugged into an outlet that has constant power, (not one that can be shut off by a switch) and run it over near the reclaimer making sure it is secured well and not touching any part of the reclaimer or the heating unit or the flue pipe or any moving parts for that fact. you will also need your heating person to come over after you have installed the unit and perform an efficiency test to include adjusting your draft. It is helpful to have some handy man skills to install one of these or any reclaimers for that fact. Good luck.
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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Question

Does the heat reclaimer require power source?

asked 1 year, 9 months ago
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Dort
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Yes, it comes with a blower fan that would need to be plugged in. It is a 120 volt with 6' cord.
answered 1 year, 9 months ago
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ProductExpert7
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answer 2
Yes, the reclaimer comes with a cord and a standard 3 prong plug that fits standard outlets.
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
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fritz396
 - Atlanta, GA
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answer 3
YES IT COMES WITH A PLUG ON IT
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
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kpkav94
 - OXFORD CT
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answer 4
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Yes - standard outlet, not-switched. You need a constant power source as the unit turns on automatically when it heats up and off when it cools off. You do NOT want to run this without power, such as a power outage because if it gets too hot it can be damaged.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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chickenwire
 - SW Michigan
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answer 5
110V power is required to operate the fan. Without the fan running, very little heat is generated and unit can overheat
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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WoodBurningStove
 - East TExas
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answer 6
The Magic heat Reclaimer does require a power source. The fan on the reclaimer operates on 110/120v. You need it plugged into an outlet that has constant power to it, not on an outlet that is operated by a switch.
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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how many can you install per stove?

asked 1 year, 6 months ago
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donthebrown
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While it may be possible to install more than one heat reclaimer per stove, it is not recommended. These units are specifically engineered to be installed one unit per stove. Installing more than one per stove will have a minimal gain in the heat that is "reclaimed". Also, installing more than one per stove will have a detrimental effect on flue temperatures and could cause drafting problems and excessive creosote buildup. Northern Tool does recommend or condone the use of more than one heat reclaimer per heating device or any installation that is in any way contrary to the specific instructions that are supplied by the manufacturer of this unit.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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ProductExpert13
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answer 2
I wouldn't put more than 1 myself.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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RichardnBo
 - St. Lazare Quebec Canada
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answer 3
I would not recommend more than one per stove. These units can substantially reduce your flue temp thusly adding to creosote buildup. I don't have any problems with mine and it really helps heat my shop. Would highly recommend.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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RickP
 - Colorado
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answer 4
Manufacturer recommends one unit per stove. Using more causes flu gasses to reach really low temps, allowing creosote to build up very quickly.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Bruno3000
 - Winston-Salem, NC
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answer 5
One.
answered 1 year, 2 months ago
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lunghd
 - Elliston, VA
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answer 6
One Magic heat Reclaimer per heating unit is more then sufficient. With more then one, it is possible that the first one closest to the heating unit will work properly and the others would never come on or more then likely the other reclaimers would short cycle, on/off- on /off- on/off .
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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Does this only work with the blower running?

Can you use the heat reclaimer without the blower portion of it? In other words, does it work if you don't have electricity hooked up to it? Thanks.
asked 1 year, 5 months ago
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Anonymous
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Without the blower running in this unit there will not be a great amount of heat that is reclaimed.
answered 1 year, 5 months ago
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ProductExpert13
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answer 2
You need the electricity to run the fan unit inside the reclaimer. Running the stove without the fan would allow the heat exchanger tubes to overheat, eventually leading to failure.

Instructions from manufacturer give direction on how to remove electrical components should stove need to be used during a power outage, but also advise to keep stove flue temperatures low as to not damage heat exchanger.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Bruno3000
 - Winston-Salem, NC
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answer 3
Manual sez to remove the fan unit if power goes out. Can still run as long as tubes do not get red hot enough to break seal and kill you with CO fumes. Don't know why you would disable this feature. Air needs to flow thru the tubes to get the heat out of the unit and into the room.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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getonenow
 - Beatrice, NE
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answer 4
the answer to your question is no the blower would not operate with out power. The magic heat reclaimer would be an expensive flue pipe adapter with out power to operate the fan it comes equipped with. The fan operates by a thermal disc. as the heating appliance runs and the stack pipe increases temperature, the disc closes the circuit and the fan comes on blowing the heat into the room/ usually the basement. Even after the heating unit shuts down the reclaimer fan may come on once or twice for shorter cycles. this is normal. You can run a heavy duty extension cord to the unit however make sure that it is secured well and not laying on any part of the flue pipe, the reclaimer or the heating appliance and is away from any moving parts. Also make sure it is plugged into an outlet that has constant power and not one that turns off by a switch. good luck.
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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Clearance issue w/ Magic Heat #MH-6-R

I can only get 12 inches of clearance from stove top to bottom of reclaimer. The wood stove is a 2200 sq ft Summers Heat and I can run the blower @ the same time to remove heat from top it has a deflector shield and blows heat into room from stove top and pipe. The stove is a 70,000 btu can I install this reclaimer if I run the blower? Or do I need 18 inches?
asked 1 year, 5 months ago
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Anonymous
 - Ma
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The required clearance is the 18 inches as stated by the manufacturer of the Magic Heat Reclaimer. The 12 inches will not be enough clearance.
answered 1 year, 5 months ago
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Not completely sure, but all the unit is is a bunch of tubes that capture heat. In the back is a fan and the electronics to blow out the heat. You might be able to do it.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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majajh
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answer 3
Per instruction manual MH-76, 1/03, (from my new '11 unit) it says 12" minimum ok, the 18" is between wall and unit. Any other quex to their #, 800-826-8751. Don't know if the manual is downloadable or not.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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getonenow
 - Beatrice, NE
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answer 4
You can install the Magic Heat closer to the stove than 24". I have mine about 12" from the output of the wood stove and it works fine. BUT, in this configuration you are more likely to overheat the unit (gets red) and that is not good. It's all how you build the fire and if your wood stove is not too big (emits too much heat), if so, then you not want to install one. WHAT I have found is, with the Magic Heat re-claimer, you don't need to build as large as a fire as you have in the past, as more heat is emitted and you can build smaller fires (ultimately using less wood per season too!). Not sure on your blower configuration, however, they can work together ok, just make sure the blower on the Magic heat blows the hot air in the same direction. AND make sure you are not blowing the hot air on or into the Magic Heat. The Magic Heat needs to run by itself and not be incorporated into any other system.
answered 1 year, 3 months ago
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Charles03608
 - New Hampshire
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Does this have to be in the up right position to work or can it lay on its side, furnace pipe where I can put it in is laying flat.

asked 1 year, 8 months ago
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Anonymous
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These can only be installed in an upright position.
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
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ProductExpert6
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answer 2
Only upright for wood and coal due to the potential buildup of ashes and creosote in the unit. The scraper is designed to remove buildup only in the upright position. Horizontal position is only OK for gas. Without the buildup issue, it could work in any position.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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Mainiac
 - Maine
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answer 3
No, I have had this installed on my oil furnace at a 40 degree angle since 2008 with no problems and works just fine, I would definitely clean the bottom out occasionally though, as it will collect ash.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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Mechanic01
 - Central Massachusetts
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What are the minimum clearances from the sides and back of the Magic Heat unit to combustible materials?

asked 1 year, 8 months ago
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Anonymous
 - Kitsap County, WA
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The clearance to combustible material is 18". The electrical cord must be kept 12" from stove or stovepipe.
answered 1 year, 8 months ago
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ProductExpert12
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answer 2
It depends upon local codes, but in general it's usually about 18 inches. I've used a sheet metal heat shield to reduce the distance as needed.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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Mainiac
 - Maine
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I believe it is 15 inches recommended. If you have a safe distance between the vertical stove pipe, you should be fine with this unit in place.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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chickenwire
 - SW Michigan
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can this be used on a pellet stove 4 in pipe

asked 1 year, 7 months ago
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It can be used on a pellet stove if the chimney is professionally installed with a negative draft chimney that has a mercury column measurement of .06" before installation and .045" below the unit after installation.
answered 1 year, 7 months ago
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answer 2
Pellet stoves, generally speaking, already use this concept to squeeze as much heat out of the pellets as possible. You'll notice the flu gas coming from your pellet stove is fairly low temperature as it is. Attempting to install one of these on a pellet stove may not be worth the investment.
answered 1 year, 6 months ago
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TheEngineer
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answer 3
Pellet stoves burn in such an efficient manner that this product would not be effective.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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Bruno3000
 - Winston-Salem, NC
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Any way to use this heat reclaimer with an outdoor wood boiler?

We have an oil fired boiler with old radiators in our 1846, mostly uninsulated house. We had an outdoor wood boiler installed a couple of years ago and will be using it exclusively to heat this winter. I was reading all the great reviews on the Magic Heat reclaimer and wondered if there is any way at all to use one with our present heating system.
Thanks in advance for any info provided.
asked 1 year, 5 months ago
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ataloss
 - Central NH
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The heat reclaimers are intended to be used with; Wood, Oil or Coal stoves only.
answered 1 year, 5 months ago
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answer 2
If you have an "outside" wood boiler, then this is not for you. You would need an insulated air duct from your house out to the wood boiler's smoke stack, where the Magic Heat needs to be installed, then another insulated air duct to bring the hot air back to the house. NOT practical.
answered 1 year, 3 months ago
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Charles03608
 - New Hampshire
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answer 3
In all honesty, not really. The porpose of the reclaimer is to dump heat from the stack pipe into the room where the boiler is located before it goes out the chimney serving two purposes, the first to reduce the amount of heat lose and second heat a space that would not have gotten heated in the first place (usually basement). I would not fabricate any type of duct work because the plate scraper handle would then be concealled in the ductwork. sorry but this unit wouldn't work well in your application for installation of an outside wood boiler.
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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I have an oil burner with a 4 in pipe. Can i use adapters to install this 6in as i have not been able to find any kind of 4in?

asked 1 year, 4 months ago
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fr56476
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I had a 6" unit installed on my Warm Morning gas heater which has a 4" flue and it works great! Just follow the instructions and have a guy check out the draft, temp, and CO2 and go for it. Don't expect them to know what a heat reclaimer is, I had to explain it. I'm sure they'd rather sell you a new furnace.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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getonenow
 - Beatrice, NE
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answer 2
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The reclaimer will work with your oil burner. Ensure that you follow the instructions regarding adapting it to a 4 inch pipe.
answered 1 year, 4 months ago
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answer 3
If your flue pipe is 4 inch off the heating appliance you can increase your flue pipe to six inch into the reclaimer and reduce it back to four inch out to the chimney. The one thing you can't do for example is take a flue pipe of a larger size and reduce it to a smaller sized reclaimer (just an example: a nine inch flue pipe to a six inch reclaimer). Heating units are designed with specific flue sizes for different reasons. There are a few things to remember though. make sure you have a professional check the draft to ensure proper draft,your draft should be -.02 to -.04 in the flue between the barometric damper and the heating unit, and the other thing to remember is if your stack temperature is 300 degrees to 350 degrees ferenheit then you should not use any reclaimers if your oil unit is piped into a brick or block chimney. A stack temp of under 300 degrees in almost all ocassions creates condensation, I have seen in unlined chimneys, chimneys actually fall over because the condensation being created (because of the excessively low stack temp) and the chemicals in the flus gasses ate the mortar between the bricks/blocks. I have also seen a chimney get plugged up with ice from low stack temps. of 275 to 300 degrees ferenheit at the chimney. If you have a four inch stack/flue pipe it leads me to believe you have a high efficiency unit already. you might create new problems if your stack temp is around 300 to 350 dergees ferenheit with out a reclaimer installed. good luck.
answered 11 months ago
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fivestarheating
 - New Hampshire
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